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Protection from Premature death would be a given, as a prophet would be protected by God until his work was complete. Likewise goes for a woman. We have a number of women prophets mentioned in the Bible.. As in Gods eyes men and women are spiritually equal.. And it's by the spirit we are strengthened. They were strengthened by God for the task He assigned them. Maybe we see the actually "job description" of a prophet differently between our respective faiths? For sure at times it was probably arduous, but God would never make it harder than the person could bear. Also there are many ways of delivering Gods revelation.
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As a woman I could take exception to that.. ;) women are certainly no strangers to hardship, in fact in most conflicts women suffer the hardest if blessed with children to care for they suffer on their behalf also. Yet.. Have immense inner strength to prevail over adversity. God made woman as partner to man in matching his outer physical strength by her inner spiritual strength. Through faith we are made strong in any situation God places us in according to His will.
I didn't say women are strangers to hardships . In fact , one of the first martyrs in Islam was a woman named Sumayyah bint (daughter of) Al-Khayyat along with her husband Yasir may Allah be pleased of them . Still , I don't think we need scientific research and the such to admit a given that males are physically stronger . Faith is important , but Islam isn't just about faith , but work as well . For that , Muslims worked and tried to fulfil the reasons of victory and success in peace and war . It's honestly the first time I know that there are women as prophets in the Bible . Then again , each have their teachings and beliefs .
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Yes, this is according to your belief and according to mine Jesus said With Him it was finished.. So Christians would not be expecting any prophets after Jesus.. As we do not see what they could add. That's why we must test the prophets and that's why IMHO the Prophet of Islam and Joseph Smith do not meet the criteria that I am told to judge by.
Fair enough . You could start a thread later - And I think the forum is closed during Ramadan - to discuss and compare if you like .
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?? I believe you said that because the majority of people were of the opinion Prophet Mohammed was an honest man therefore it follows he must be... Or something to that affect. This is not really accurate or logical.. People can appear to be something they are not and people have been fooled by people like this. Please don't take it as I mean Prophet Mohammed just appeared to be good or honest.. I don't mean that at all. I expect he was all of that. I'm just saying it's not accurate to use it as logical evidence of the fact.
Honesty is a condition of a real prophet , but it's not the only one , there are many others . I'm just saying that honesty is indeed a charecteristic of the prophet peace upon him . And logically , it is impossible for a person to live 40 years pretending to be someone he is not without slips here and there . His people knew him and he was among them his whole life . They even entrusted him with their belongins AFTER the revelation which they fought against ! Not to mention that when he left to Madinah (Enlightened city) , he left his cousin Ali may Allah be pleased of him to return them to their owners ! The point is that no one can deny the fact that the prophet peace upon him was truthful and honest . No person can pull such an act his whole life which we have recorded .
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where did I mention the Da Vinci code???? I was making a point that mathematical probabilities are part of the order of the universe.. It that way they could be miraculous but being used to claim proof of divinity I think as a theory it falls short as it can equally be found in other books that are certainly not considered divinely inspired. Same goes for science.. And I think muslims some put far too much emphasis on so called scientific proofs when at times they were already known to mankind. It's foolishness.
I'm seripusly beginning to get lost here . And since I didn't mention mathematical probabilities or such a thing , I'll drop it . As for scientific evidence , there are either ones unknown to anyone at the time , or ones known to some who the prophet could have never known of . And IF he was able to reach their records which are in far lands in different languages without someone noticing him , how could he ONLY take the right and leave the wrong ? Anyway , you could later make a thread for this as well .
I did say Islam isn't about faith alone . And seeing how the prophets indured hardships and harm from their people to the degree of being killed in cases , it's safe to say a woman can't handle that . It's a no brainer that males are physically stronger . Just don't go and accuse me of sexism and the whole usual thing .
Evidence from Quran or Sunnah = Sayings of Quran and Sunnah .
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Because, you say the woman can't handle the spiritual things men can in your description
You have until the sun rises from west - or until one of us dies - to show me where I said women can't handle "spiritual things" . I was talking about physicall capabilities . Then again , you have the talent of taking my words into a whole different direction .
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we understand women are the ones who fill hell according to Islamic tradition, woman have or are half wits compared to men, and they are in need to be beaten from time to time.
I present you the definition of this serious issue you have with spamming slanders :
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The red herring is as much a debate tactic as it is a logical fallacy. It is a fallacy of distraction, and is committed when a listener attempts to divert an arguer from his argument by introducing another topic. This can be one of the most frustrating, and effective, fallacies to observe.
http://www.logicalfallacies.info/relevance/red-herring/
And from wikipedia :
The
idiom "
red herring" is used to refer to something that misleads or distracts from the relevant or important issue.
[1] It may be either a logical
fallacy or a
literary device that leads readers or characters towards a false conclusion. A red herring might be intentionally used, such as in mystery fiction or as part of a rhetorical strategy (e.g. in politics), or it could be inadvertently used during argumentation as a result of poor logic.
So don't think you're fooling us if you end each post with "Peace to you" . Your acts speak louder than your words . Wait , actually , your words themselves speak louder than each other .
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