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It certainly does not hint at "gay acts".. That you should even think that shows the state of your own dirty minds!!!!! Maybe the dear sister could explain what she meant by the verse or why she thought to choose it and the point she was making in choosing it. Rather than jumping to conclusions. Possibly wrong conclusions..
Wooo , hold it there . I did say that it doesn't mean gay acts . We just use it when someone thinks dirty and fabricates such things abut Islam . I mean that when someone like Butros - you can't see the video I guess - looks at a narration of the prophet peace upon him hugging a man and says it's "gay" , that's when we show him this so that he backs off . Of course it doesn't mean what we're talking about , it's just that he's using double standards .
And by the way , some translations say that the man was sitting "next" to him . So you should probably call those translators dirty minded for their twisted way of understanding .
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then it leaves you with the dilemma not I. You will continue to address Jesus in this manner and it is you that will answer for it at judgement.. I'm ok with that..
You declare me destined to hell for more than that in your belief . So much for the love , don't you think ? Still though , indeed , we will see at the day all are judged .
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Whichever way you cut it.. Jesus had a father and that was God.
That's YOUR belief . Are you going to do the same as Burnlight and try to force it on ours ?
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The only two involved in the creation of Jesus were God and Mary.. Both the Bible and Quran agree on this point. Jesus's being and nature was down to God and Mary.. Where I take exception with the Quran is how it misrepresents the belief Christians held in regarding the conception of Jesus, which implies a physical act making Jesus a biological son of God. This is blasphemy and no Christian would believe such a thing. Something God would also have known.. Seeing as He sees into the hearts, minds and souls of all believers.
Since you admit there is no "biological" connection , how come he's "Son of God" ? And how come God is his "Father" ? Allah says in his noble book :
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112:1 Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One, 112:2 Allah , the Eternal Refuge. 112:3 He neither begets nor is born, 112:4 Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
And that's it for us . And if we're going to call him son of God because he's been created with his will , we should call every living creature so . Also , what signs do you mean when you say they "misrepresent" the Christian belief ? Did you actually read them carefully or see explanations for them (Which can be found on the internet !) ?
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Foster parent... One who cares for a child as his or her own. Which Joseph did as he was commanded to do by God. You don't know because it does not tell you so in the Quran... Fair enough. It's clear in the Bible.
Fair enough .
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Look! the dear sister asked why it was considered an insult to refer to Lord Jesus as Son of Mary. I explained why that was so .. Why Christians found it offensive. That you do not see this because Allah did not share this information with you .. Is not my problem and does not impact upon my person any. However, for us it is a sin.. If we share the same God then maybe it would be considered a sin for you also, on that you will answer accordingly at the judgement.
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don't worship the same deity . Allah calls Isa peace upon him the son of Mary . Since it's offensive to you , just ask , and we won't refer to him in such manner . Simple isn't it ?!
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Talking in the cradle.. That again is difficult for a Christian to accept because of the original source of evidence is doubtful. Again, regarding the Prophets the accounts are different in the Quran and I do not see sound reasons for the differences.. So again I am unable to accept them as authentic.. That's for me.. Obviously for you it's different. :)
Wait what ? So Christians don't believe he talked in cradle ? Or did I misunderstand you ? Seriously , I'm asking sincerly here . Anyway , you said it , each have their belief . Discussing which belief is true is another thing .
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Well, I already addressed this point.. My response was to the dear sisters query. Which was why it was considered an insult to Lord Jesus from a Christians perspective. You believe what you wish. We all have choice here.
Repeating again , if it's offensive , just ask , and we won't use the term while talking with you .
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