Thread: women in christianity in both new and old testaments

Starting with the glory testament
The new testament

So let’s see what the new testament say abou women

Let’s see the equality in the new testament

women must be in submission

1 Corinthians 11

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...11&version=NIV

3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6 If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 -New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV

34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. 35 If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.




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Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...14&version=NIV

Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

freedom to wear what she want

1 Timothy 2:9-10
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+2&version=NIV

"I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God"

more about submission in the new testament

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1 Peter 3 - New International Version

1Wives, in the same way be submissive to your husbands

100% equality

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+3&version=NIV

Colossians 3 - New International Version
18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord


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http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...+5&version=NIV

Ephesians 5 - New International Version

Wives and Husbands

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

wife must submit to her husband in everything in the new testament


Birth of any female is a loss: Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

soooooooo where can i find equality

now let’s see women in the old testament


1- Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.


2- A man could marry (literally "become the master of the woman") as often as he desired. In Genesis 4:19, Lamech became the first known polygamist when he took two wives. Subsequent men who took multiple wives included: Esau with 3 wives; Jacob: 2; Ashur: 2; Gideon: many; Elkanah: 2; David: many; Solomon: 700 wives of royal birth; Rehaboam: 3; Abijah: 14. Jehoram, Joash, Ahab, Jeholachin and Belshazzar also had multiple wives


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3- Women in the bible is just like property of her father. At marriage, her ownership was transferred to her new husband

Exodus 20 -New International Version

The Ten Commandments

17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor."
It is important to realize that a manservent and a maidservant were male and female slaves. They were not a hired butler and maid. The tenth commandment forbids coveting your neighbor's house, wife, male slave female slave, animals or anything else that the neighbor owns. The wife is clearly regarded as equivalent to a piece of property.


Exodus 21 -New International Version

2 "If you buy a Hebrew servant, he is to serve you for six years. But in the seventh year, he shall go free, without paying anything. 3 If he comes alone, he is to go free alone; but if he has a wife when he comes, she is to go with him. 4 If his master gives him a wife and she bears him sons or daughters, the woman and her children shall belong to her master, and only the man shall go free.

A slaveowner was permitted to give a woman to his male slave as a wife. There is no indication that women were consulted during this type of transaction. After serving six years, he would leave, but his wife and children would remain slaves of the slaveowner. Again, there is no indication that the woman was consulted on this arrangement

Exodus 21 - New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...21&version=NIV

7 "If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do
A father could sell his daughter as a slave. Even though a male slave is automatically given his freedom after 6 years, a female slave remained a slave forever.


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Exodus 22 - New International Version

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...22&version=NIV


16 "If a man seduces a virgin who is not pledged to be married and sleeps with her, he must pay the bride-price, and she shall be his wife. 17 If her father absolutely refuses to give her to him, he must still pay the bride-price for virgins


The first seventeen verses of Exodus 22 deal with restitution in case of stealing, or damage to, a person's property. Verses 16 and 17 deal with the case of a man who seduces a virgin. This was viewed as a property offense against the woman's father. The woman was expected to marry the seducer. If her father refused to transfer ownership of his daughter to the seducer, the latter was required to required to pay money to her father. The money would be in compensation for the damage to the father's property - his daughter. It would be difficult for a non-virgin to marry


Exodus 21 - New International Version

22 "If men who are fighting hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely [e] but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman's husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

describes a situation in which two men are fighting and one hits a pregnant woman. If the woman has a miscarriage because of the blow, the man is punished as the husband decides and must pay a fine for their act - not to the woman, but to her husband, presumably because he has been deprived of a child. The woman had no involvement. Exodus 21:22: "...he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine."


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Originally Posted by حفنة تراب

more about submission in the new testament

Could you let me add something about her position In the Bible?


Woman has no right to witness
The witness is of 2 men only, no women
Joh:8:17: It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.

1 man = 100 women
`0415104 In law, according to one
rabbi, "a hundred women are equal to only one witness."
The source
THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION
VOLUME FOUR
THE AGE OF FAITH

Why?
They considered woman "light-minded," `041599
The source:
THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION
VOLUME FOUR
THE AGE OF FAITH
1950
A History of Medieval Civilization-
Christian, Islamic, and Judaicfrom
Constantine to Dante: A.D. 325-1300

Why?
Women have no right to speak in churches… it is shame!!!

1Co:14:34: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co:14:35: And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Why?
Because her position is lower than men!!!
According to
A Treatise On The Status Of Woman And The Origin And Growth Of The Family And The State
http://books.google.com.sa/books?id=...ianity&f=false


Why?
Because women were unclean during the first 3 centuries, the time of real Christianity!!!!
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But there are 7 days she is unclean until the even!!!!!

Le 15:19 And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and
whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even.
Le 15:20 And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.
Le 15:21 And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le 15:22 And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le 15:23 And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even.
Le 15:24 And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean.
Le 15:25 And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean.
Le15:26 Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation.
Le15:27 And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even.
Le15:28 But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean.

So, what about if she has the period and she needs to get in the court?!!!
The court and the judge … etc, will be unclean until the even!!!!!!!!
Poor Christian women!!!!

With my regards
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Thank you brother for you helpful participation

may allah bless you